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We don't currently use verification.

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Then how is it that "we're doing the best we can" when email validation isn't on?

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Fair point, Chris.
All of the other organisation forums I join require e-mail verification.
It will work much better to reduce spam.

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I also agree. It would be a good idea.

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Then how is it that "we're doing the best we can" when email validation isn't on?


We're doing the best we can. That includes factors such as:

1) Limitations on our current message board system

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How is man-power an issue ?
There are plenty of mods IMO, and the e-mails could be divided out to mods instead of just Aaron or admins.

Anyhow, if you're short on people, howcome we've seen no 'recruitment' notices or messages ?

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In order to have email verification, the verifier has to be an administrator. Aaron doesn't want 20 message board administrators milling about. That goes back to a combination of the system and the manpower. Moderators cannot do verification.

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Understood. We all know how 'non-customizable' this Php message board is..

Perhaps one more admin, other than Aaron and Ali, someone who spends a bit of time on the boards and is reputable. This individual could be responsible for e-mail verifying. Ideas ?

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In order to have email verification, the verifier has to be an administrator. Aaron doesn't want 20 message board administrators milling about. That goes back to a combination of the system and the manpower. Moderators cannot do verification.

I'm talking about where you have to go to your email account and click an activation link; not admin approval, of which I hate.

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Oh, of course. Hence the name, e-mail verification - to verify your e-mail address.
But how does this prevent spammers from signing up ? They're quite capable of clicking a link.

Why do you hate admin approval, Chris ?

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Oh, of course. Hence the name, e-mail verification - to verify your e-mail address.
But how does this prevent spammers from signing up ? They're quite capable of clicking a link.

...but are they all capable to check their email? :wink:

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Why do you hate admin approval, Chris ?

You have to sit there and WAIT :x

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It's only like 48 hours max before you would be approved.
If you can't find something else to do in that time, well, ...

Come on, time shouldn't be (and isn't) an affecting factor in this.

Besides, what are you worried about, Chris ? You're already a member, so you have no worries.

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Oh, of course. Hence the name, e-mail verification - to verify your e-mail address.
But how does this prevent spammers from signing up ? They're quite capable of clicking a link.

...but are they all capable to check their email? :wink:

In regards to this, Yes.
Sorry for saying that they need to click just one link.
So, they'll have to click a bookmark button, then the message and then the link - big deal !

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Not sure that we're capable of email activation. I can't comment further on that, because I don't know.

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Aaron and I have discussed this somewhat and he feels it's not a good idea to have admin approval due to time issues.

We currently have the email verification on and that's not stopping the SPAM.

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Well ! There you go.

Looks like we do need admin approval, regardless of time.

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No, because when I wanna post, I wanna post NOW. I don't want to wait. Might as well hand out paper application forms and mail them off to St. Paul!

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Hmm, I don't know exactly what you mean.
Surely you don't think that it would make you be approved for every single post you make ?

It's only when you first sign up to the forum, in your case it was early 2005.

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No duh, I know that. EvolveAI's boards are set up so that the admin has to approve your account, and that took a few days when I wanted to post NOW.

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Right. Then in the case that you understand that initial approval may take time, I can get to the fact that you're being quite the arrogant person by way of almost demanding instant access to post.
You need to get your priorities sorted, as well as some patience.

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