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Ah, don't you just love loopholes ! :lol:


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If CO decided that it doesn't want anyone using its logos without permission, CO can order CO virtual and other CO VA websites out there to be shut down. Why? They have rights for the name and logo and are being used without their consent.
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That's why Alaska Virtual uses generic font as well as not the full airline name. We also don't have any shots where the airline's name or logo is identifiable because they asked. Thankfully they didn't shut it down!

The problem with the legal battle is that most VA's can't afford to go to court to fight CX or another airline, so their only option is to shut down. It's not right, but that's the way it works unfortunately. Luckily for our little arrangement that shouldn't be a problem! :)

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The problem with the legal battle is that most VA's can't afford to go to court to fight CX or another airline, so their only option is to shut down. It's not right, but that's the way it works unfortunately


I beg to differ. In both a legal and practical sense, an airline does not have the power to "order" a VA to shut down or even stop using its trademarks. They can only threaten legal action (lawsuits). The airline and the VA are both private citizens under the law and one cannot force the other to do anything unless there is a legal basis such as a lawful contract or a judicial decision.

To get to the level of a successful law suit, an airline has to demonstrate damage caused by the VA. The use of a real world airlines logos and marks by a VA causes no harm to an airline. Period. It is considered de minimus which is a legal concept of insignificance. The airline has no legal basis to order a VA to do anything. It can, as in the case of CPA Virtual [link removed], send out their lawyers. That VA has posted the letters from CX's lawyers and the VAs response on their website. And guess what...CPA Virtual told them to take a hike. CPA Virtual won. It is all a matter of wanting to or being able to deal with lawyers and nasty letters. Being able to get legal counsel is another matter all together. Bottom line: know the law!


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What happened with CPA requires $$$. A lot of it. And for a VA to win the case it's very very very rare.

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In the U.S., lawyers (litigators) are often required to provide pro-bono work. (For those not aware, pro bono work is free services to those individuals and non-profits (like a VA) who cannot afford legal representation.) I'm sure a lawyer can be found to type a letter on firm letterhead for free or cheap. Plus, CPA Virtual has set (or validated) the precedent so a recent, successful example is out there for all to see.


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