Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 483

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 112

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/20/334/450/285/9/user/web/simairline.net/messageboards/includes/bbcode.php on line 112
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 3760: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/bbcode.php:483)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 3762: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/bbcode.php:483)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 3763: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/bbcode.php:483)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 3764: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/bbcode.php:483)
SimAirline.net - Message Boards • View topic - AOM Bangkok routes

It is currently 15 Dec 2018, 02:45

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2008, 01:02 
Offline
Pilot

Joined: 19 Oct 2008, 22:11
Posts: 19
My first two flights here were AOM flights into and out of BKK.
It wasn´t until after I had done those flights that something occurred to me: the Bangkok routes for AOM show Suvarnabhumi airport; VTBS was opened in 2006 and given the fact that AOM stopped operating years before that I would think that these real life routes used to operate to/from Don Mueang. Shouldn´t our routes reflect that as well? (Sorry if this has been asked before, didn´t get any hits doing a forum search.)

_________________
Cheers

Uwe Gremmels (378)

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2008, 13:38 
Offline
Administrator
User avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2005, 18:14
Posts: 3747
Location: Atlanta, GA
This is a complicated question that I think about every year and change back and forth. I think the central question is: do we want AOM, Midway, Sabena, Swissair, Virgin Express, and Virgin Sun* to be portrayed at the time they closed, or do we want to bring them forward into the present and act as though they're still alive? There's certainly merit to both sides, and right now we do the latter.

I'm thinking about switching us again right now because of Berlin's historical airports closing, but I've never discussed this topic publicly. Thoughts from all of you?

*Pan American excepted, since it's fully intended to be a different era

_________________
Aaron Robinson | Managing Director and Owner
aaron.robinson@simairline.net | AIM: SimAirlineNet
Read the latest SimAirline.net news and updates at Viewpoint
SimAirline.net on Facebook and LinkedIn


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2008, 15:40 
Offline
Management/Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2007, 21:08
Posts: 7673
Location: Warwick, England
I would opt for the first option and have those historical airlines operate into the airports that were around back then. I think it adds to the realism, but it still means we can fly those airlines in the present day.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2008, 16:03 
Offline
Pilot
User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2005, 23:27
Posts: 5845
Location: Pittsburgh
sanins192 wrote:
I would opt for the first option and have those historical airlines operate into the airports that were around back then. I think it adds to the realism, but it still means we can fly those airlines in the present day.

I like the historic route as well, as you wouldn't see those airlines in airports built after they kicked the bucket.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 28 Oct 2008, 20:20 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2005, 06:52
Posts: 3086
Location: Apex, NC
IMHO, offering airlines that are no longer operating is more realistic if we operate into the same airports they used while they were operating. It's not a huge deal to me, but it makes sense to do it that way rather than switch to a newer airport in a destination city that was not around when the airline was operating.

_________________
Image
VatAware | Blog | Twitter


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 29 Oct 2008, 11:57 
Offline
Pilot
User avatar

Joined: 09 Nov 2006, 17:53
Posts: 1490
Location: New Delhi, India
I also think the first option would be better. Why serve airports that were never served by that airline in real life ?

_________________
SAVE INDIA'S TIGERS!!
www.saveourtigers.com
My PC : Asus P5Q Motherboard | Intel C2D E8400 3GHz | 3GB OCZ DDR2 RAM | MSI ATi 4850 1GB OC Edition | 250GB SATA | Windows XP Pro SP3 | FS2004 |


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 01 Nov 2008, 20:08 
Offline
Administrator
User avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2005, 18:14
Posts: 3747
Location: Atlanta, GA
Thank you all. We'll be making a change gradually over the next few weeks at affected VAs (AOM, Sabena, Swissair, Varig).

Here are some examples of complicated situations, explaining why we had a "current airport" policy:
-Delta used to fly into Bangkok, but stopped flying years before Suvarnabhumi opened. However, Delta is not a historical VA. Don Muang or Suvarnabhumi? Why?
-Varig used to fly to Hong Kong, but cut the route shortly after the move to Chek Lap Kok. Kai Tak or Chek Lap Kok? Why?
-Concorde flew to Singapore before Changi was built. Changi or Paya Lebar? Why?

New policy: in general, use whatever the final airport served by that airline was, with exceptions as needed.

_________________
Aaron Robinson | Managing Director and Owner
aaron.robinson@simairline.net | AIM: SimAirlineNet
Read the latest SimAirline.net news and updates at Viewpoint
SimAirline.net on Facebook and LinkedIn


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 02 Nov 2008, 01:40 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 09 Jan 2005, 06:52
Posts: 3086
Location: Apex, NC
One thing I've learned in aviation (and life) is that you cannot create a rule that will work in every situation.

I would say go with the last airport served, unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise.

_________________
Image
VatAware | Blog | Twitter


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2008, 06:49 
Offline
Management/Moderator
User avatar

Joined: 05 Feb 2007, 23:44
Posts: 2415
Location: Christchurch New Zealand
Defintely use the airport the airline last operated to, otherwise we'd get confused.

_________________
Image
Enigma Simulations | Texture Artist and Aircraft Designer
Click my banner to see my paints via Avsim.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2008, 08:21 
Offline
Pilot

Joined: 19 Oct 2008, 22:11
Posts: 19
RatherBFlyin wrote:
One thing I've learned in aviation (and life) is that you cannot create a rule that will work in every situation.

I would say go with the last airport served, unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise.


I suppose "Kai Tak is more fun" doesn´t really qualify as a compelling reason, eh?
:mrgreen:

_________________
Cheers

Uwe Gremmels (378)

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AOM Bangkok routes
PostPosted: 12 Feb 2009, 01:34 
Offline
Pilot
User avatar

Joined: 04 Dec 2008, 01:46
Posts: 86
Location: Tempe, Arizona, USA
Seems to me that there are only a handful of cities around the world with this dilema facing us: Bangkok and Hong Kong for certain, but Tokyo, Berlin, Rome (3 WW2 Axis capitals) come to mind as a few of the places that might have to be governed by a pilot's choice rule.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group