A380 at Simairline

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Which Sim(Airline) are you most excited to fly the A380??

Emirates
13
30%
Thai Airways
3
7%
Korean Air
3
7%
Virgin Atlantic
8
19%
British Airways
11
26%
China Southern
1
2%
Lufthansa (Codeshare)
4
9%
 
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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by CaseyD » 26 Feb 2008, 14:17

No no, Airbus, we want you to create an A380-900 that can fly supersonic, and we'll order 50 of those.
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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by steve63 » 27 Feb 2008, 20:01

EK because it is the first airline for us that is getting the aircraft.

I think you will see more and more airports upgrade to handle larger aircraft
as more airports start to get over crowded with smaller aircraft. I read somewhere
that KJFK is thinking about putting a cap on slots that airlines use, 20% less than what it is
today. If this is true then larger aircraft will be needed by the airlines if they want
to expand. that means less B737, A320 and more A330, B787. If you fly long distance and
you use B777, B747 A330,A340 and you want to increase the number of people you
are hauling the right now the only choise is the A380. Boeing is alittle behind here but I,m
sure that they will catch up with the 748.

This is also good for people who live near these airports as it means the number of flights
won't go up so there won't be an increase in the amout of noise.
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Post by Aaron Robinson » 28 Feb 2008, 19:53

So...what airline ordered the most aircraft at one time? Hmm? Not Emirates.
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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by jaronamo77 » 29 Feb 2008, 18:36

I think you will see more and more airports upgrade to handle larger aircraft
as more airports start to get over crowded with smaller aircraft...


I read somewhere thatall airports really need to do is upgrade their jetways, aka having one service the lower deck and one service the upper deck. I know someone who works as a Frontier gate agent and she says this could easily be done here in Denver.

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Post by CaseyD » 29 Feb 2008, 19:10

Probably, but who's going to operate an A380 to DEN? Doesn't seem practical.
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Post by Northwestdc9 » 29 Feb 2008, 19:35

Lufthansa to Frankfurt is their shot at a whale.
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Post by Yaroslav » 29 Feb 2008, 19:47

I think that LH has other priority destinations for their A380's. Though when they would get their 14th or 15th one they might think about DEN...
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Post by Northwestdc9 » 29 Feb 2008, 20:46

Oh yeah, definitely not at first. If Denver ever sees it at all it'll be once they have quite a few A380s, it's possible as they're using the A340-600s and 747-400s on the route. You may just see the Whale a Mile High someday...
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Post by CaseyD » 29 Feb 2008, 21:03

Northwestdc9 wrote:Lufthansa to Frankfurt is their shot at a whale.


However, seeing as LH got the 747-8I also, I could see that more feasible on that route.
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Post by Northwestdc9 » 29 Feb 2008, 22:25

That's certainly more likely than the Whale. 150 seats less than the Whale and just a slight bump up from the A340-600 and 747-400.
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Post by Aaron Robinson » 29 Feb 2008, 22:50

CaseyD wrote:
Northwestdc9 wrote:Lufthansa to Frankfurt is their shot at a whale.

However, seeing as LH got the 747-8I also, I could see that more feasible on that route.

It's reportedly already in the works.
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Post by stuttgart1482 » 01 Mar 2008, 16:30

I'm quite sure LH will use their first A380's on the Frankfurt - Asia and Munich - Asia routes. If they start using it across the Atlantic it might be on the FRA - LAX or the FRA - ORD flights. But I doubt we'll see it at LAX because UAL just started a new FRA - LAX connection. So there are enough Star Alliance flights available from FRA - LAX. I guess we'll see more LH A340-600's crossing the atlantic.
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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by Northwestdc9 » 01 Mar 2008, 18:37

I wouldn't be surprised to see FRA-JFK, FRA-IAD and FRA-ORD.
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Post by CaseyD » 01 Mar 2008, 18:53

JFK or ORD maybe, IAD would surprise me.
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Post by Aaron Robinson » 01 Mar 2008, 18:58

CaseyD wrote:JFK or ORD maybe, IAD would surprise me.

I know for a fact that Lufthansa has spoken with MWAA about making IAD A380-capable.
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Post by stuttgart1482 » 01 Mar 2008, 18:59

You'll also might see the A380 coming from Munich but as I already said we'll see it somewhere in Asia first. Hong Kong, Tokyo and Shanghai might be LH's first A380 destinations.

FRA - ORD is a possible flight.
FRA - JFK might be possible but not on a daily basis. There are already a lot of connections from Germany to NYC from several German airports. Especially since Delta and Continental came to Berlin and Hamburg. FRA - NYC is served by 4 airlines (LH, CO, DL and SQ).
FRA - IAD is not realistic in my opinion there are already 4 flights (1 LH on 744 and 3 UA on 767,777 and 747) IAD is also served twice daily from Munich by UA and LH (777 and 343). So six daily nonstop flights from Germany to IAD.

In my opinion it is more likely that we'll see many of LH's 747-800 in the future on LH's Germany - USA flights.
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Post by Aaron Robinson » 01 Mar 2008, 19:14

stuttgart1482 wrote:FRA - IAD is not realistic in my opinion there are already 4 flights (1 LH on 744 and 3 UA on 767,777 and 747) IAD is also served twice daily from Munich by UA and LH (777 and 343). So six daily nonstop flights from Germany to IAD.

Keep in mind that United's ATI with Lufthansa continues to grow. Look at KLM-Northwest for an example of the power of ATI (granted, under a joint venture as well): five daily flights between Amsterdam and Detroit, markets which are both smaller than Germany and Washington.
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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by CaseyD » 01 Mar 2008, 19:28

If LH were to fly the A380 to IAD, then they would need some sort of cargo or other financial help to make it successful. IAD is not a huge airport the tons of traffic by any means.

In my opinion it is more likely that we'll see many of LH's 747-800 in the future on LH's Germany - USA flights.


This I think is a true statement.
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Post by stuttgart1482 » 01 Mar 2008, 20:42

Keep in mind that United's ATI with Lufthansa continues to grow. Look at KLM-Northwest for an example of the power of ATI (granted, under a joint venture as well): five daily flights between Amsterdam and Detroit, markets which are both smaller than Germany and Washington.


Good Point Aaron, I absolutely agree the market is much bigger than AMS-DTW, but I think we'll likely see more flights than a larger aircraft. I could imagine a seventh or even eighth Germany - IAD flight maybe on LH A340 or A330.
But if you talk about markets you have to take a look how germany's economy is developing. Globalization connects the german economy more and more with the Asian economy. I'm sure the A380 will come to the US and maybe also to IAD. But not in the near future. I'm absolutely sure that it will mainly be used to Asia first. The markets and the demand on flights between Germany and Asia is growing much faster than the demand on flights between Germany and the US. That's why Lufthansa needs the A380 first on Asian flights to serve this demand.

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Re: A380 at Simairline

Post by CaseyD » 01 Mar 2008, 20:43

Ugh, we need a barfing smily...
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