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BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Garyck » 20 Aug 2009, 16:16

Finally we're getting closer to seeing the BA A318CJ over the uk, its taken its first flight today. :D

Flying LCY - JFK 6 days a week it will have a fuel stop in Ireland as it needs to be light to climb out of LCY. Can't wait for a download to become availiable and to Fly this route when it becomes live.

I wonder how BA have selected the Pilots for this route, maybe something along the lines of - Can you swim against the current of the River Thames, Do you like short runways and finally do you have a screw loose :rolling:

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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Randy » 20 Aug 2009, 16:29

For the lack of a better word. Thats cute. I take it the CJ is a commuter jet? Was looking the other day at the number of RJ's/CJ's that have been purchased over the years. The number is incredible. Was curious why Boeing or Airbus never attempted to enter that market?

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Post by Garyck » 20 Aug 2009, 16:36

Randy wrote: Was curious why Boeing or Airbus never attempted to enter that market?


I would've thought that the likes of Embraer and Bombardier had cornered the market to quick for them to respond with their own, Also at the time the RJ market swung into action, Order books for Airbus and Boeing were prob looking pretty full.
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Post by Jacob Mobley » 20 Aug 2009, 16:42

CJ stands for 'Corprate Jetliner.' I really don't understand why they are running this route, I'm guessing just to provide a more expensive and nicer alterantive to this route.
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Post by Garyck » 20 Aug 2009, 16:52

This was planned well before the current financial problems around the world it offers a unique service to the customer in both experience and comfort. I also believe that the US immigration work is done while on the ground in Ireland to save time when entering the United States (But not quite sure how this works)

PrivatAir air offer a similar service with a Transatlantic 737.
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Post by DMM200 » 20 Aug 2009, 17:10

London City is also a much smaller airport. Business class travelers now have the option of a quicker and more comfortable check-in at LCY and an on-time departure, versus the unpredictable madness that is Heathrow.

Of course, there is always Gatwick, but it serves a different part of London.
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Randy » 20 Aug 2009, 17:20

Jacob Mobley wrote:CJ stands for 'Corprate Jetliner.' I really don't understand why they are running this route, I'm guessing just to provide a more expensive and nicer alterantive to this route.


AH. A BJ! oops. Biz Jet. :shock:

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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by RatherBFlyin » 20 Aug 2009, 19:26

I'm guessing that they will not need a fuel stop on the way back to LCY? Does the A318CJ have the legs for that trip length?

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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Aaron Robinson » 20 Aug 2009, 19:32

ACJ is the Airbus term for the A318 private version, just like Boeing has the BBJ.

Garyck wrote:Flying LCY - JFK 6 days a week it will have a fuel stop in Ireland as it needs to be light to climb out of LCY. Can't wait for a download to become availiable and to Fly this route when it becomes live.
The route will be flown twice daily within a few months, not just once. Also, British Airways could have opted to use Halifax instead of Shannon, but likely received incentives from the airport.
Jacob Mobley wrote:CJ stands for 'Corprate Jetliner.' I really don't understand why they are running this route, I'm guessing just to provide a more expensive and nicer alterantive to this route.
Nearly 100,000 people work at Canary Wharf at companies like HSBC and Citi. There are surely enough premium passengers to fill 64 seats per day at a higher fare than distant Heathrow.

Having the service be to LaGuardia instead would have been even cooler, but British Airways does have their own terminal at JFK...I can dream!
RatherBFlyin wrote:I'm guessing that they will not need a fuel stop on the way back to LCY? Does the A318CJ have the legs for that trip length?
This is correct. As a range example, Air Canada was flying an A319 on St. John's-Heathrow a few years ago.
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by RatherBFlyin » 20 Aug 2009, 19:53

Ah, the Battle of Canary Wharf. Good ol' Torchwood meddling with things they don't understand and bringing the world to the brink of destruction (again).

Sorry, little bit off topic there. :P

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Post by Carlo » 21 Aug 2009, 03:14

I've been looking forward to this route for ages! Can't wait to fly it! 8)

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Post by Dennis » 21 Aug 2009, 04:16

DMM200 wrote:Of course, there is always Gatwick, but it serves a different part of London.

I find Gatwick to be the farthest airport in all of London. When you look at a map, Heathrow is barely in the city limits, while Gatwick is somewhat south of the city limits. I remember a 2 hour bus ride to get from our hotel to the airport (and with the line, we barely made it to the flight).

RatherBFlyin wrote:Does the A318CJ have the legs for that trip length?

3,740 mi when fully loaded. Wonder why they didn't choose the A319CJ? (more range and more passengers)
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Post by DMM200 » 21 Aug 2009, 04:30

RatherBFlyin wrote:Does the A318CJ have the legs for that trip length?

3,740 mi when fully loaded. Wonder why they didn't choose the A319CJ? (more range and more passengers)[/quote]
The A318 can rotate a lot sooner with a full payload, b/c of its smaller size and weight. LCY can't handle the A319 (not enough runway).
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Northwestdc9 » 21 Aug 2009, 06:01

It's... not as small as I'd expected it to look, more like a slightly shorter British Airways A319, looks bigger than some of the other A318s. Weird, probably the picture.

Definitely enough business for this route to work, I'm hoping it does and will definitely fly it when it starts. Mmmm A318 out of City, that is tough in an Avro.

I too, wish it were from La Guardia, that'd be amazing. Maybe someday.
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Post by cpt nick » 21 Aug 2009, 13:56

Ive heard about this before, quite an interesting route to be honest, I always thought it was Air france that was part of it although I could be wrong. I think the A318 looks cute in BA colours :lol:
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Garyck » 29 Aug 2009, 10:19

Flew into Gatwick last night as G-EUNA c/s BAW9261

Just have to wait for the official route(s) and re-fuel destinations, then happy flying.
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Post by maverick10 » 01 Sep 2009, 20:20

So, is this route flyable with Simairline?
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Post by FJ flyer » 01 Sep 2009, 20:41

maverick10 wrote:So, is this route flyable with Simairline?

Yes, it will be.
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by flybywire22 » 01 Sep 2009, 21:20

Just curious, obviously the fuel stop is short enough to make the trip economical for BA; but exactly how long will it take to re-fuel the A318?
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Re: BA A318CJ First Flight

Post by Garyck » 15 Sep 2009, 20:31

Just found this:

FS2004 British Airways Airbus A318. This is a repaint of G-EUNA to be used on transatlantic flights from London City Airport. This contains photoreal engines and tail. Also extra windows added to rear of fuselage. You will need the payware Wilco/feelThere add-on to make this work. By Ian "Eddie" Edwards

http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=139139

I want a freeware one :cry:

Maybe another one aircraft for the BA Fleet page???
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